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Man City v Man Utd - five talking points on an unusual derby

  If you're wondering why this weekend's Manchester derby feels a bit, well, different, it's probably because there is so little jeopardy riding on the result. Sure, there is the possibility of Manchester City's slump of one win in 10 - unprecedented in the Pep Guardiola era - reaching new depths. Or the scale of yet another Manchester United rebuild under Ruben Amorim being further exposed by their neighbours. But there is little talk of title challenges, or of United finally 'being back'. Here are five discussion points teeing up Sunday's fixture. 1. How bad are things for both clubs? United have their lowest points total after 15 matches in the Premier League era. City's total is their lowest at this stage since 2010-11. Going into this weekend's fixtures, United were 13th and City were fourth. City have taken just four points from their past six Premier League games. No other team has taken fewer over that period - and only Southampton match that...

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